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{{Main page announcement}}
[[Mercenary]] [[Privateer]] [[Talion Charter]] [[Solo]]
{|
| [[File: MercenariesLogo.jpg|100px]] [[File: Minion Logo.jpg|100px]]
| {{FH2|{{PAGENAME}} }}<BR>
{{FH3|{{Mercenary}}, & {{Minion}}, {{Gobber}} {{Privateer}} {{Sea Dog}} {{Solo}} }}
|} [[Category:Model]]  
{{4P|Talion Charter}}


''Although many gobbers have gained acceptance at the fringes of society, swamp gobbers have always held a particularly unsavory reputation, and those who serve as river raiders among the pirate crews that prey on western Immoren are no exception. With rusted hooks, axes, and swords, they hack into their enemies with a savagery common only to the wilds.''
[[Category:Legacy Mercenary]]
[[Category:Privateer]]
[[Category:Talion Charter]]
[[Category:Solo]]
[[Category:Legacy]]
[[Category:Prime]]


=Basic Info=
== Model stats and abilities ==
{{Infobox-Model
{{Model-stats
| name = {{PAGENAME}}
| name= Raider
| image = SwampGobberRiverRaiders.jpg
| base= 30 mm
| base  = Small
| hp    = 1
| spd  = 6
| spd  = 6
| str  = 3
| mat  = 6
| mat  = 5
| rat = 6
| rat   = 5
| def  =14
| def  = 14
| arm  = 11
| arm  = 11
| cmd  irrelevant
| fa   = 9
| hp   = 1
| cost  = 1
| cost  = 1
| fa    = 9
| abilities =
{{AbilitySingle|Dual Attack}}
{{AbilitySingle|Ambush}}
{{AbilitySingle|Advance Deployment}}
{{AbilitySingle|Prowl}}
}}
}}


'''[[Mercenary]]''' - This model will work for {{Cryx mercenary}}.
== Weapons ==
{{Weapon|weapon=Harpoon Pistol|type=R|rng=6|rof=1|aoe=-|pow=10|loc=-|abilities={{AbilitySingle|Pistol}}{{AbilitySingle|Reel In}}}}
{{Weapon|weapon=Poisoned Hand Weapon|type=M|rng=1|rof=-|aoe=-|pow=6|loc=-|abilities={{AbilitySingle|Weaken}}}}


'''[[Minion]]''' - This model will work for {{Circle minion}}, or {{Skorne minion}}.
== Solo  Rules ==
{{Category:Solo}}


===Abilities===
==Errata==
* {{Dual Attack}}
No Errata specifically for this model.
* {{Prowl}}


===Weapons===
== Changes and Updates ==
{|class="wikitable"
{{Ranged|Harpoon Pistol|6|10|
* {{Reel In}} }}
{{Melee|Poisoned Hand Weapon|0.5|3|6|
* {{Weaken}}
* {{Bane ability}} }}
|}


===Theme Forces===
==Release Trivia==
* '''''Mercenaries
* Released 2015.10
** {{The Talion Charter}}. {{PAGENAME}} gains [[Sacrificial Pawn]] [Sea Dog trooper] in this theme.  
* Swamp Gobber River Rafter; Minicrate Exclusive. 2021.08
==Battle Reports==


* '''''Minions
==Videos==
** {{Blindwater}}
** {{Vengeance of Dhunia}}
** {{Will Work For Food}}


* '''''Other Factions
==Lore==
** '''[[Infernal]]''' players can use this model in the {{Hearts of Darkness|notbold=}} theme, but only if [[Crosse2]] is leading the army.
** '''[[Trollblood]]''' players can use this model in the [[Vengeance of Dhunia]] theme.
** Furthermore, Minion models can be hired by other Factions. Normally those Factions' themes will have a limit on how many models they can hire. Refer to [[#Other Theme Forces]], below.




=Thoughts on {{PAGENAME}}=
==={{PAGENAME}} in a nutshell===
Swamp Gobber River Raiders are fantastic throwaway bodies. They are cheaper per model than just about any unit except [[Mechanithralls]] and can fill the pesky final point in your army. On the table, they block charge lanes or get in weird places.


They are tremendous scenario pieces allowing you to contest things far away without giving anything of value up, and occasionally they'll hit a Weaken on a Titan or Dire Troll or something. Plus they score flags.
''Although many gobbers have gained acceptance at the fringes of society, swamp gobbers have always held a particularly unsavory reputation, and those who serve as river raiders among the pirate crews that prey on western Immoren are no exception. With rusted hooks, axes, and swords, they hack into their enemies with a savagery common only to the wilds.''
 
For some reason they also have an ARM debuff that works on Archons, Warjacks and Undead on their Hand Weapon, which is great.
 
===Combos & Synergies===
'''As Mercenaries'''
* [[First Mate Hawk]] - Privateer Sea Dogs. POW 6 with 3 damage dice against warriors! Arrr!
* Anyone that can make them more likely to hit
* [[Fiona the Black]] likes cheap models to channel through that can get to weird places.
* [[Shae]] it’s all about speed with Shae you can stick these guys some odd places.
* [[Rahera]] they benefit from black spot, her feat and reducing enemy ranges helps deliver them.
 
'''As Minions'''
* They have an impressive synergy with [[Helga the Conqueror]]'s feat. Swamp Gobbers move forward, reel in and are placed into the back arc of the enemy. They now have a rather good chance of hitting the enemy and slamming the models forward and thus closer to your own models. Assumes you hit both attacks of course. They are also pretty good for triggering Gang Fighter.
* They are the second cheapest choice for [[Barnabas, Lord of Blood]] to trigger with his feat, with only the shamblers from the [[Gatorman Bokor & Bog Trog Swamp Shamblers]] being cheaper.
* Trollblood/Minion players can use them in [[Vengeance of Dhunia]] this opens up some other caster synergies (such a [[Grim2]], where they are great with Mark Target and Snipe) but also offers the Krielstone for +2 ARM
 
===Drawbacks & Downsides===
* You get what you pay for. DEF 14 models that cost less than most conscript infantry and have both a ranged and melee attack.
* One of the few mercenary models that ''doesn't'' work for The Irregulars.
** being bound to [[Talion Charter]] means you can only play them with 4 casters in mercenaries.
* MAT/RAT 5 can be a real problem. The MAT can be fixed if you reel into the enemy back arc, but you still need to connect the RAT 5 shot to do so. The low range also means aiming the shot is not on the table in most cases.
* They will usually never damage anything with their weapons, but their key abilities rely on hitting, not damaging, anyway, so it doesn't matter.
 
===Tricks & Tips===
* Hold them back and run to contest.
* Use them to block charge lanes of anything you would put an arm buff on - Put pillows on the fists of any enemy living model who eyeballs them the wrong way with a weak but effective free strike. The enemy now needs to waste attacks trying to hit annoying little gobbers or accept that their heavies are now even easier to hit and punch like lights.
 
=Other=
===Trivia===
[[File:MiniCrate8_5_SwampGobberRafter.jpg|thumb|Swamp Gobber River Rafter; Minicrate Exclusive.]]
 
* Released 2015.10
* {{LES|2021.08}}
 
===Other Theme Forces===
{{Cryx merc solo themes}}
{{Circle minion solo themes}}
{{Skorne minion solo themes}}
 
===Other Faction models===
{{Index Mercenary}}
{{Index Minions}}
 
===Rules Clarifications===
{{RCBox2|Name=Poisoned Hand Weapon
|list=* The Poisoned Hand Weapon will benefit from [[Hawk]]'s buff to Sea Dog Hand Weapons. ('''[http://privateerpressforums.com/showthread.php?255016-First-Mate-Hawk-amp-Sea-Gobber-River-Raiders&p=3686818&viewfull=1#post3686818 Infernal Ruling]''')
}}
 
{{RC Reel In}}
{{RC Weaken}}
{{RC Dual Attack}}
{{RC Prowl}}

Latest revision as of 21:41, 3 November 2024

Mercenary Privateer Talion Charter Solo

Model stats and abilities

Model Statistics

Base size = 30 mmSPDMATRATDEFARM
Health = 1
FA = 9
Cost = 16661411
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Model Advantages and Abilities

Dual Attack
Dual Attack

This model can make melee and ranged attacks in the same activation. When this model makes its initial melee attacks, it can also make its initial ranged attacks. A model with Dual Attack can make its initial melee and ranged attacks in any order you choose. This model cannot make ranged attacks after making a power attack.

  Errata-Dual Attack and Unit Charges (2023-10-27)
Question: If a unit with Dual Attack charges a single model, are all placed in melee range, and the first model kills the charge target, can the remaining members of the unit make ranged attacks, or do they forfeit their Combat Action because they don't have any enemy models in their melee range?
Answer: The check for melee range is done at the end of movement. If you kill the targets before they attack, they can still do their ranged attack. (Malkav13)
Explanation: This post is correct.
Infernal Ruling: elswickchuck (Bulldog) - PP Community forum


  Errata-Dual Attack and Special Attacks (2023-08-10)
Question: Can a model with Dual Attack make any combination of ranged special attack and normal melee initial attacks, or its melee special attack and normal ranged initial attacks? (Example: Bison Both Barrels and Ram, or Mariner Thresher and gunshot).
Answer: No.
Explanation: The bison can not use dual attack and also make a special attack. That is correct in that (Thresher) example too.
Infernal Ruling: elswickchuck (Bulldog) - PP Community forum



Ambush
Ambush
In most scenarios, this model/unit does not have to be deployed at the start of the game. Instead, it can be placed at the end of any of your Control Phases after the first round.
  • Choose any table edge except the back of your opponent's deployment zone.
  • Place the models/units completely within 3 inches of the chosen table edge.
  • Place so that every model in the unit is within 3 inches of every other model in the unit.
  • Ambushing models/units must forfeit either their Normal Movement or Combat Action during the turn they are put into play.

  Errata-Ambush (2024-1-16)
Question: When can Ambush happen - the rule book conflicts with app.
Answer: End of Control after the first round.
Explanation: N/A
Infernal Ruling: pps_Loren Privateer Press Staff/Dev - PP Community forum


Advance Deployment
Advance Deployment
In most scenarios, this model can be deployed after normal deployment, up to three inches beyond the established deployment zone.

No errata for Advance Deployment (Create)


Prowl
While this model has concealment, it gains Stealth.

  Errata-Prowl (2024-2-17)
Question: Does Prowl prevent a model from losing stealth while it has concealment?


Example 1:
A Warpwolf Stalker with Prowl has concealment and is shot by a weapon with Flare. Thus the model gets -2DEF and loses Stealth. However, as soon as the model loses stealth, it gains it back by having Prowl and being in Concealment.
Example 2:

A Soul Stalker is targetted by Spyglass and thus loses Stealth for a round. However, when it was shot by an AoE also hitting a cultist, the cultis dies and Agathon now casts Occultation on the soul snake, does it gain Stealth again despite having lost it?
Answer: For now stealth will not be reapplied in the above example.
Explanation: So we will be using the ruling from MKIII until we have time to go through the different abilities. For now we are looking into the issue brought up by this thread for now. Mainly due to the volume of rules we need to address this first prior to moving on the the other issues, similar to this. Also it is due to the fact we have a previous edition ruling that we are applying to this scenario.
Infernal Ruling: elswickchuck Infernal - PP Community forum




Weapons

Harpoon Pistol
 RNG   ROF   AOE   POW   LOCATION 
6 1 - 10 -
Pistol
Pistol

A model making an attack with this weapon targeting a model it is in melee with ignores the Target in Melee bonus when resolving this attack.

  Errata-Pistol (2023-09-17)
Question: Does the pistol benefit apply to models not in melee with the attacking model when the pistol is on a spray?
Answer: No, it only applies to models with which the attacking model is in melee.
Explanation: The intent is that a model only ignore the penalty for being in melee with the models that model is in melee with. Pistol only works against the models in the melee with the attacking model.
Infernal Ruling: Dark Legacy - PP Community forum



Reel In
When this attack hits an enemy model, immediately after the attack is resolved place this model B2B with the enemy model.

No errata for Reel In (Create)

Poisoned Hand Weapon
 RNG   ROF   AOE   POW   LOCATION 
1 - - 6 -

Weaken
A living model hit by this weapon suffers -2 DEF and -2 to its melee attack damage rolls for one round.

No errata for Weaken (Create)


Solo Rules

Solos are independent warrior models.

Errata

No Errata specifically for this model.

Changes and Updates

Release Trivia

  • Released 2015.10
  • Swamp Gobber River Rafter; Minicrate Exclusive. 2021.08

Battle Reports

Videos

Lore

Although many gobbers have gained acceptance at the fringes of society, swamp gobbers have always held a particularly unsavory reputation, and those who serve as river raiders among the pirate crews that prey on western Immoren are no exception. With rusted hooks, axes, and swords, they hack into their enemies with a savagery common only to the wilds.